2/18/2005
Useful Reflection
A reflection on Science, utility, and repetition:
“What is useful is true,” say engineers. I don’t begrudge them this. Yet, I find it only true in that it is useful for engineers to stick to applying known principles to their problems. Wandering in the clouds of what-might-be, really doesn’t help them build bridges.
But, we have two words: “useful” and “true”. We can blur the lines. Words are pliant things. Still, I find it useful to separate the two.
Newton’s mechanics were useful. Back when Newton proposed his mechanics a rubber-sheet universe was less useful. But, it would be odd to say our relativistic universe is true today, but was not true in the days of Newton. That’s just not how Science works to many of us.
What is useful changes; but what is true, isn’t supposed to. I had an engineer-type friend who would throw out the engineer’s slogan whenever we approached a nearby subject. Perhaps it would solve all problems, if we were engineers engaged on a project. Comparing and contrasting useful and true is not useful when trying to find the best weight distribution for a bridge.
I hope on day to fully justify the use of etymology in my discussions. It follows along the line of finding the original need for the word. For what purpose did people mint the word? We haven’t quite been successful in uncovering where the word cam from. But it has a proximate meaning to meaning related to usual.
This lines up with where I had it before I began the search. I reasoned that something that is of great value is not typically called “useful”. We find calling a cyclotron “useful” a bit of an understatement. But also I found a resonance with the word handy, which also carries the hint of “ready”.
Frequently pegged as a luddite, by the urbane atheist, I get people who challenge my notions about Science. To some, the value of Science has been the explanation it provides. I don’t agree.
I argue that the main value of Science is technology. I’m aware that we have a whole body of Science called “pure Science”. But we just would not engage in “pure Science” were there no technology. Gadgets and chemicals fund research. The public would hardly pay people to provide the service of looking at things endlessly.
Plus, technology and not story best maps to predictability. I expect my computer to come on and it does. I expect it to publish my words to the world, and it does. I expect to be able to program it and sometimes I can make it do some snazzy things.
Therefore the prediction has an intimate relation with my interaction with the fruits of technology. However, the consistent event of falling down had many explanations.
In a utilitarian way, I can operate with the abstraction of machine as an expression of expectation. The successful machine does what designer expected when he designed it (because the materials tend to lend a pattern of expectation) and what I expected when I bought it. The results matter, the interlacing together of details is only important in that it does what I want.
However, explanation invites us to try to weave invisible threads among the pattern of repetition. The hicks weren’t wrong in that the frost regularly appeared on the window pane. They weren’t wrong if they were to invent scrapers to remove the frost. It was in explaining it by “Jack Frost” that they embarrass us moderns. And it was entirely that explanation that had no bearing of the treatment of frost on windows.
Once, men of good reason thought that all bodies fell toward the center of the universe as a reason why things fell to the ground. It made a certain sense: the ground was where heavy materials tended to cluster, and they were impacted into the surface. And since many of them knew that the earth was a sphere (they did indeed), they were invoking a 3-dimensional center.
However, that the earth was the center of the cosmos was immaterial to technology that solved the problem of keeping things from falling and lifting up heavy things to keep them temporarily from “center-seeking”.
Thus as I said before there is less value in Evolution or the Big Bang, primarily used to provide closure to the world, than there is with the Toaster. The lack of technology throws us back to a dark age, not the lack of a story to tie our origin into naturalistic philosophy.

Jesi said,
February 26, 2005 @ 4:49 pm
I’m a high school senior from Alabama…I found your Christian Philosopher website while researching for a paper about christian existentialism. Needless to say, I’ve learned a lot! I enjoyed reading everything you had to say. Thanks!
Author said,
February 27, 2005 @ 12:46 pm
Jesi,
Thanks for coming here and enjoying the site. On the subject of Christian existentialism, someone recently wrote to me that concepts date back to Acquinas. He wrote:
How ironic that the first time that I can make sense of Sartre’s principle, is by understanding a parallel in Acquinas.
Of course on my own, I consider Solomon to be the first existentialist philosopher, 1800 years before Acquinas wrote. Read Ecclesiastes and see if I’m not right.
But, thanks for coming to this site, Jesi.
Horatio said,
March 8, 2005 @ 12:44 am
Please provide objective, material evidence that a deity exists. Or, if that is too hard, perhaps you could point me in the direction of a peer-reviewed research article that proves descent with modification wrong.
Author said,
March 8, 2005 @ 5:41 am
Horatio,
That’s a gauntlet I don’t remember throwing down. It is too hard. I would also like it if I could prove it to myself. Also, I don’t reject “descent with modification” as a possibility, I reject that its chief holders can only ever partially believe in the world they peddle.
I reject that the brain is any sort of truth-meter under this model, it is instead an organ that does whatever it does. It is an “understander” only in those cases where it understands. It is a “computer” only in those cases where it computes.
On the other hand, to get perhaps a touch Nietzschian, we know that 1) we want to be right. Also if follows human nature that 2) we will declare ourselves right way too early in the process, and 3) we do not easily lay aside the claim to be right. Also, 4) some of us go to great ends to avoid any reversal in this.
Right and wrong are an extension of choice. I can reassure myself in my choices by saying that I am right and also by saying that you were wrong when you choose differently. Being right gives me a freedom of choice that being wrong does not give you. As well, when you attack my choices as wrong, being right advances my choices over your scurrilous attacks. Thus we can engage in group norming and we can resist group norming at the same time. Being right is about freedom to chose in a social sphere and advance your choice as the norm. It’s assertion and power over others. Thus it has a role to play in the same sort of manner that Nietzsche described Master Morality.
Thus “thinking you’re right” is a very human—and extremely common—activity that each one of us thinks has a different standing for us than it does for others. Others may think that they are arguing correctly, but they are not, (according to our view).
In our frustration with members of our species, we are often calling the judgment of many into question. Thus we can think of the mean behavior of humans as stupid and self-possessed, in that model. Now, how many standard deviations do you want to be from a mean that is stupid and arrogant?
Have I answered your questions? No. But, I have commented on them. Certain people use absolute words like “objective” when what they mean is “commonly occuring the the brain of humans, accompanied with a corresponding block to think of the counter case”, to be equally reductionistic. But frequently, they don’t want to be that reductionistic about a word they feel they have the advantage with.
Now we both may use the word “objective”, but I would guess that I’m more comfortable with not knowing just exactly what that word means.
Horatio said,
March 8, 2005 @ 12:13 pm
Wow, congratulations on your obfuscations! Leave it to a Christian apologetic to use relativism (which, if you apply it to your own belief system, is fatal to it) to attack science. Have fun in the 14th century.
Author said,
March 8, 2005 @ 11:25 pm
Why thank you.
How do you mean that? In what way is it characteristic of Christians to use relativism? Most Christians I know treat relativism as if it were the third rail or something to exorcise with the recitation of the commonly known disproof.
I think what you have a hold of there is a straw man. You can look up and down the whole front page and you’ll find no “attack” on Science. You might find something that you argue is an attack against Science. But, I like technology. I program computers for a living and a hobby. In this very post, I said “the main value of Science is technology.” I don’t think I was talking about the printing press.
“[I]f you apply [relativism] to your own belief system, it is fatal to it.”
But it really doesn’t fit in my worldview. If it works so well that you want to use it where it does not fit, you should at least explore its limitations in the originating worldview.
Of course that was my point. I said that people of the naturalist/positivist ilk are less comfortable with a jello skepticism when it is applied where they tend not to apply it. But when they want to, they still want to use words like “objective” like it has a some form outside of brains.
You may think that I am being biased if I apply it to one system and not to the other. On the contrary, I argue that the one system it should be used against is the system that prescribes it.
When you introduce it to an alien system, what exactly would you be trying to do? Would you really expect a system to cohere in the face of root conflicts? The idea that we are just animals, is apart from a special creation. The idea that the brain has no intended purpose precludes a purposeful creator. What exactly is my exercise in examining such an inconsistent system?
Throw Martians into your system. Now your proof-heavy system can only cite Martians as a basic assumption to the coupled system of empiricism + Martians, not that it can prove Martians. Somewhere along the line you’d realize that either Martians need to be proven or proof is more disposable than was thought. But what exactly again have you accomplished by throwing a disparate element into your system to watch the inevitable collision.
Stick an opaque windshield into a car and drive it the same way you would drive with a clear windshield, to minimize the difference. When you crash that car it does not point out the flaws in the car without an opaque windshield or normal driving behavior. The opaque windshield is inconsistent with our typical understanding of car.
But that aside, it is no more fatal to theism than it is to any other system. If my pessimism could be true, nothing can be done about the war of words in the human herd. We would still engage in word wars. We would still try to mark off territories of expertise, and each of us would still walk around thinking that we were right, because our “selfish genes” would have us think that way.
I might as well try to rub your nose in this while I still think that I can, than take any new tack which would show a retreat from ground. Instead what I think I see is that by reducing cognition to reflexive behavior, everything is laid low. If this is a problem, it is a problem with that reduction, not that the rampaging ox gored itself this time.
Horatio said,
March 10, 2005 @ 6:31 pm
Perhaps not fatal to theism, but how not to Christianity? Or to put it another oft repeated way, how do you know that yours is the true system, and not Islam/Zoroastrianism/Sikkhism/Buddhism/Shinto/Judaism/blah blah blah. Oft repeated, becase no believer has yet provided a sound answer.
Author said,
March 11, 2005 @ 3:00 am
“Perhaps not fatal to theism, but how not to Christianity?â€
It’s covered in theism. Christianity is a type of theism. Relativism conflicts with the ground of theism. It is interesting to note that the Bible is perhaps a bit more relativistic than the brightest-eyed rational deism, so there is some variability here. But none the less, you still have a central observer, who sees the ground of truth, there is no ground for the central skepticism of relativism.
For consideration on that other matter see my new post “Answering the Many Creeds Question (Sort of)”. It got much bigger than I want to post on the comments section.
Pollyanna Rides Again said,
July 21, 2005 @ 9:22 pm
HI! This is coming to you from someone who one day in 2001 (April) could not wait a moment longer to try to understand some things about the culture within which she found herself. There were energy fields of anger and fear all over the place in spite of the vibrating greenness of trees, the astonishing and apparently endless wonders of the cosmos, the carefree silliness of children, and the fluffiness of dogs. Also in stark juxtaposition to these ominous dark clouds could be found the amazing bright adventurelands of the mind, not to mention the vast worlds of others minds whenever one wished to go there (and have a meeting… of the minds). The title of her monologue turned out to be, drumroll, “Craftsmanship and the Practice of Now.” Would you like to explore this subject in on-line dialogue? This would be preparatory to leading a group discussion open to certain unusual people—Seriously seeking sincere existentialists and metaphysicians—or sincerely seeking serious…Anyway, there is a sort of thinly veiled subtheme behind the loftier title above: for lack of a nicer way to say it, “The Revenge of the Baby-Boomers.” In the midst of Anger and Fear, Pollyannas find themselves mocked and outnumbered as they carry the banners of Being and Happiness. Contrary to popular opinion, true cheerfulness is deep and carefully built on a certain long-term friendship with the Universe– (which is obviously of Divine origin—probably an On-Going Project—please let’s not get sticky with terms for now). Or some of us have learned to sublimate all our frustrations really really well. Yours, Pollyanna Rides Again.
Respectfully, Pollyanna Rides Again.